I wasn't alive for Reggie's heroics

**Biggin** · October 26th, 2008, 02:48 AM

but i dont think strength should be pre requisite to being a great athlete

and im not saying KG isnt strong, but hes not overly strong, like OL strong.

but i think strength truly has little to do with being a better athlete than someone.

**BlueWahooChambordDevil** · October 26th, 2008, 02:56 AM

the strength thing is all relative much like speed etc

you can have an OL that is a physically athletic freak.......but obviously not compare to a RB or WR

**Biggin** · October 26th, 2008, 02:57 AM

ok, we are on the same page now

i agree wit that

i dont know bout upton being the best athlete, reyes is pretty crazy, hanley ramirez too

**BlueWahooChambordDevil** · October 26th, 2008, 03:02 AM

as for stats......you could be the most physically gifted WR ever to play the game.......but if you have the most miserable qb ever......are your stats really going to be that impressive?

does that mean you arent a great athlete?

not in my eyes

**Biggin** · October 26th, 2008, 03:04 AM

but overtly excessive success, like rice's, that transcended generations, albeit from two high class QBs, if you look at what he did on the field, he puts himself in a different class.

its all competition, the best WRs beat every corner in the league. if you had to beat 30 great DBs instead of 8 great DBs a year, ie don hudson, lance alworth, etc....

it evens itself out in my eyes

does that make sense?

damn its late

**BlueWahooChambordDevil** · October 26th, 2008, 03:06 AM

put rice on the packers or colts of the mid 80s

is he still good? absolutely.......does he retire with every record imaginable?

very doubtful

**Biggin** · October 26th, 2008, 03:18 AM

thats jus somethin that you cant really count on, cause you never really know what would have happened.

success makes you the greatest, if not how else? i can see extra ordinary circumstances, but even players like bo jackson, they were at the elite level before the injury, etc...

is he the greatest ever? no, probably not.

he the best athlete to play the position? probably

**Biggin** · October 26th, 2008, 03:22 AM

if bo didnt get hurt, would he be the greatest?

the world will never know

**BlueWahooChambordDevil** · October 26th, 2008, 03:24 AM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Biggin</div><div class="ubbcode-body">thats jus somethin that you cant really count on, cause you never really know what would have happened.

success makes you the greatest, if not how else? i can see extra ordinary circumstances, but even players like bo jackson, they were at the elite level before the injury, etc...

is he the greatest ever? no, probably not.

he the best athlete to play the position? probably </div></div>
bo was the exception only because before he got hurt he was on a path to be the best in both baseball and football at his position.......such a feat could truly have crowned him the great athlete ever

**Shooter** · October 26th, 2008, 11:12 AM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PVFAN</div><div class="ubbcode-body">... and ball players are Pete Rose, JJ Redick, and Peyton Manning. Pretty simple logic to me. </div></div>

Holy crap, Did i just see a Maryland fan give JJ his due...better watch out, the sky must be falling lol [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif[/img]